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Anti-Islam lyrics no barrier to Norway music prize

Published: 05 Jan 2012 12:30 GMT+01:00 | Print version
Updated: 06 Jan 2012 02:27 GMT+01:00

A black metal band nominated for Norway’s top music prize has rejected claims that lyrics on its latest album go too far in their criticism of Islam.

Taake’s nomination for the Spellemann Prize in the Best Metal Album category has sparked a strong reaction from listeners who find some of the band’s lyrics objectionable, newspaper Aftenposten reports.

In the song Orkan (‘Hurricane’) on its latest album, Noregs Vaapen, the band sings “To hell with Muhammad and the Mohammedans” and their “unforgivable customs”. It ends with the line: “Norway will soon awaken”.

Marte Thorsby, chairman of the prize committee’s board, denied any assertion that the jury must not have listened to the album properly before announcing the nomination.

“We enjoy full freedom of expression in Norway and a Spellemann jury is not going to censor content in any way,” she told Aftenposten.

Didrik Søderlind, of the Norwegian Humanist Association, agreed that criticism of religion was fully acceptable and should not be subject to any form of censorship. But he also argued that the song in question went too far.

Søderlind said the lyrics were presumably written prior to last summer's terror attacks in Norway, “and in the aftermath of July 22nd they’re completely over the edge.”

“I’d imagine Taake aren’t particularly proud of these lyrics after Utøya,” he said, referring to the massacre of 69 young people at a summer camp by anti-Islam extremist Anders Behring Breivik.

In a written response to the newspaper, Taake front-man Ørjan Stedjeberg said his sole intention with the contentious lyrics was to criticize religion.

“Our view, in the name of freedom of expression, is that it is shameful to adhere to Christianity or Islam. Incidentally, Christianity is mentioned in the same lyrics, but that doesn’t seem to have been given any emphasis,” he wrote.

“Taake has never been a political band, and we do not encourage either violence or racism.”  

Stedjeberg previously landed himself in hot water in 2007 when he appeared onstage with a swastika painted on his chest in Essen, Germany, where any use of the former Nazi symbol is strictly prohibited.  

In a statement released after the incident, Stedjeberg said:

“Taake is not a political Nazi band, etc. We certainly didn't expect the current threat reactions, as everyone should know by now that our whole concept is built upon provocation and anything evil- and death-related.”

The Spellemann Prize winners will be announced at a ceremony on January 14th.

Note: This article has been updated (6 Jan) to clarify comments made by Didrik Søderlind.

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2012-01-05 13:04:57 by gladhand
Excellent response from Stedjeberg and a pathetic comment from Didrik Søderlind. The Norwegian Humanist Association should be the last ones defending the sensibilities of one religious group, but then again it's not surprising given that the organisation was once run by the anti Israeli bomb smuggler Lars Gule.
2012-01-05 15:40:38 by strixy
Political corectness should not replace common sense. “Our view, in the name of freedom of expression, is that it is shameful to adhere to Christianity or Islam. Incidentally, Christianity is mentioned in the same lyrics, but that doesn’t seem to have been given any emphasis,” he wrote. Excellent response. The main focus of all black metal bands has been to criticise Christianity. Norwegian black metal has a long tradition of anti-Christianity and this does not seem to concern Mr Didrik Søderlind. Nor rap artists whose lyrics are full of sexual violence and glorification of gun crime. Some people should just get a life and keep their noses off things they do not understand.
2012-01-05 16:30:14 by Didrik Søderlind
Strange things have been happening with this article, and things have been lost in translation. In the Norwegian original, I explicitly state that dislike of Islam and other religions is OK. The problem with Taake's lyric to "Orkan" is the combination of "to Hell with the Mohammedans" and so on combined with references to weapons and warfare. In the aftermath of Utøya, that is way beyond bad taste. http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/taake/noregsvaapen.html#1 As for whether having bad taste should deny someone a cultural prize, well, that's up to the jurors to decide. If my record shelf was subjected to some sort of morality police there wouldn't be much left. As for Lars Gule's past, that was in 1977, when he was 22 years old. He has since distanced himself thoroughly from his actions and thinking at that time, and is a strong critic of both Islam(ism) and political violence. If one believes that people should get a second chance in life, then that thing should stop counting as an argument at some point.
2012-01-05 17:06:10 by strixy
"In the aftermath of Utøya, that is way beyond bad taste." Luckily, for now freedom of speech is not only available to those who satisfy certain 'tastes'. Personally, I find rap songs that degrade women and glorify use of weapons repulsive, especally after the wave of rapes and stabbings in Norway. Yet, I would be careful in calling for it to be banned/restricted. Even though while criticising organised religion can be justified and understood, calling for women to be degraded cannot. If you are expressing your private opinion, this is okay, you don't have to like it. In fact, most people find black metal disgusting and it's okay to feel like that. However, speaking as a leader of an organisation is quite something else. The main rule of democracy is that 'everything can be printed'. If one criticises organised religion he has every right to do it and can criticise Christianity, Islam or any other organised religion for that matter. It's called freedom of speech. I can perfectly well understand those who see a threat coming from any kind of theocracy (extreme Islam is just as dangerous as any other religion in its extremities) and I feel it's a little bit dangerous when people start talking about excluding certain views from the public domain as ''politically incorrect''. PC should not be used as a shovel to get rid of opponents. With regards to Lars Gule, well, it is quite puzzling that someone who smuggled bombs then leads a human rights organisation.I am afraid it does not add to its credibility. So Breivik is bad because he managed to do what he had planned. What about Gule? He also planned to kill people and it would have happened had Lebanese Customs not stopped him. A quite from religiousfreedomwatch.org: "Gule stated that he did not regret participating in the planned terrorist act. He said that, while he once believed that it was possible to create a societal revolt without violence, he now believed that the use of weapons is needed in order to cure injustices because no one gives up his rights without a fight." There is one quote from Nietzsche that fits in here quite aptly: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."
2012-01-05 17:36:22 by strixy
I thik we are not that different in our approach, maybe it is the article that does not do justice what has really been said.
2012-01-05 17:38:20 by strixy
References to weapons and warfare is one of the main elements of the Scandinavian black metal lyrics. It's aprt of the artist's creation and I would not read too much into it. Since the early nineties, there has been swords, gun powder, axes etc in pretty much every single black metal lyric. It has more to do with the Norse mythology than with anything else.
2012-01-05 17:47:34 by Didrik Søderlind
Strixy: Of course people should be free to have bad taste. And I should be free to say that they have so. This should be part of a normal democratic discourse. The Norwegian Humanist Association is not a "human rights organization", it is a (secular) Humanist organization. As such, its member will often be critical of religion(s). Lars is today a great spokesman for Humanism, though I disagree with some of his perspectives (a healthy sign in a movement that stands for freethought). As a tip, I wouldn't use Religious Freedom Watch as a source. It is a Scientology group.
2012-01-05 17:56:57 by Didrik Søderlind
Strixy: I have read a lot of black metal lyrics and I have been a practicing Åsatru adherent (I am very proud of Norway's Norse heritage), so I am not unfamiliar with what you're talking about. However, I feel that the lyrics to "Orkan" look particularily bad after 22/7. So do a bunch of other people, it seems. None of the elements in the lyrics are particularily new, it's the way they're combined and the time they appear in that makes them look so bad. As I state in the article, I assume they were written before the summer and wouldn't be written today. The problem with the article isn't so much that I've been misquoted (my quotes were sent by email) but that the context makes me look as if I want to censor Taake. I really don't.
2012-01-05 18:30:54 by strixy
Yes, well thanks for taking time and claryfying this because indeed it does sound as if you had tried to censor them. Glad to know it was not so ;) It's probably either a translation problem or a not-so-thorough journalist job ;) I know a bit about your organisation and I know it is a well-established body and has been doing quite a remarkable job when it comes to separate the state from the church. I did not know who was behind the religiousfreedomwatch.com, so thanks for enlightening me. Cheers.
2012-01-05 18:36:23 by Didrik Søderlind
I agree that the piece was easily misinterpreted, but this is the nature of the media. If you agree to talk to them (it's part of my job to do so), your words easily get taken out of context and misinterpreted. Cheers to you too, and have a good evening.
2012-01-10 01:33:28 by nathan45
Good to see we can still speak our mind in our own countries about a completly forign belief that makes up a very small minority without being thought poorly of or even prosecuted.
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